While in Australia to speak at Ed Dale’s Coming Home 2 event — and what an event it was BTW! — I sat down with Gideon Shalwick to talk about the connection between SEO and video, in particular, how to get your videos to appear in search results. Enjoy.
Gideon Shalwick interviews Leslie Rohde

And … be sure to catch both Dan Thies and myself in San Diego this May at Ed Dale’s Coming Home 3 seminar. Details still to come … but May 22nd is a special date for me [an Easter Egg for my long time followers to figure out] and Dan and I will be fresh off doing some guest teaching for both Andy Jenkins and Jeff Johnson so we’ll have a bunch of new stuff to share.

In just a few days, Frank is coming out with the mother of all list building courses — List Control. This will be a fantastic product. Why? Anyone can build a list — all that takes is an opt-in form. What separates Frank from everyone else is how he builds a relationship to the people on his list. Approaching your list as people, not just email addresses, changes everything.

As part of the promotion, Frank is giving away “4 Day Cash Machine”. I bought this as part of Mass Control and have actually used it once or twice. It works. If you have any list at all, here’s a plan: get this freebie; use it; spend (some of) the money you make to buy List Control.

Here’s my completely undisguised affiliate link to get 4 day cash machine. Enjoy.
https://smithkern.infusionsoft.com/go/4daycash/a812/

The panel presentation at Ed Dale’s seminar today covers Third Tribe, an interesting and evolving experiment in finding “middle ground” between the two extremes of blogging — running a personal diary as a labor of love and (the alternative) using blogging as purely a business.

In many settings, making money using a blog is considered “evil” and a violation of what some consider the purity of blogging. Even in the best case, you can be way off message if you find yourself in the other sort of blogging community.

Darren Rowse, who founded Third Tribe, started blogging as a labor of love but does make money on it and has even been the inspiration for other bloggers to do precisely that.

Lynn Terry, who Ed tells us “doesn’t open her mouth unless she get’s paid”, does indeed run her blog as a money making concern in the niche affiliate marketing space and uses blogging to build a community within a market.

Yaro Starak admits to having “crossed over to the dark side” from having started blogging as just a love and today finds that he can make money and get to blog too — the best of both words.

James Schramko, humorously presented for the purpose of stage theater as the face of evil blogging, started out in blogging with the intent to make money but joined Third Tribe and finds that it describes his position on blogging precisely. He characterizes the difference in the various communities of bloggers in terms of “how far” down the hard-selling road they go. Not everybody making money with a blog is using the full-on, in your face selling tactics that many folks outside the I.M. space presume that we all use.

Lynn finally brings up the Elephant in the room — “who are these bloggers who do not want to make money?”

Darren tries to offer up the answer but admits that he really doesn’t get it either.

I wonder … Could it be that asking this question in a room full of people that paid a grand to get there is not the right place to find the answer? 🙂

Yaro points out that Third Tribe in some sense is a clever branding move that allows people to have a tribe that makes money without being in “the evil tribe”.

Lynn Terry is presenting at Ed Dale’s Coming Home 2 conference this week as am I, so just for kicks, and for our many follows that will not make it down-under, we jumped on the phone earlier today to chat about what we were talking about come Friday.

This naturally went well astray into all things affiliate marketing and SEO, so you’re bound to find something of interest somewhere in the 56 minutes we spent together. Hope you enjoy.

Lynn Terry Interview

And for those of you who will be joining us in Melbourne — see you there! Ed has a rather fantastic lineup planned.

A couple nights ago I had the pleasure of talking with David Jenyns, a native of Australia, about my upcoming presentation at Ed Dale’s “Coming Home 2” event. Turns out David has followed me for some years — I’ll let him tell you the small world connection there — so we’ll have loads to catch up on when I meet David in person next week.

The sound quality on this 55 minute call is truly superb and the questions and content are paced just beautifully. Hat tip to David for marshaling a great interview.

Some of the high points covered include:

• Best bang for the buck in link building
• Single biggest ranking factor
• Most serious mistake people make in search

Catch the entire interview over at David’s site:

Interview with David Jenyns